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                                <title>Is There Value In Family Firms Daily Mail and General Trust plc, Fuller, Smith &#038; Turner plc And Nichols plc After Today&#8217;s Mixed News?</title>
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                                <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator><![CDATA[G A Chester]]></dc:creator>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>G A Chester puts Daily Mail and General Trust plc (LON:DMGT), Fuller, Smith &#38; Turner plc (LON:FSTA) and Nichols plc (LON:NICL) under the spotlight.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com/2015/07/23/is-there-value-in-family-firms-daily-mail-and-general-trust-plc-fuller-smith-turner-plc-and-nichols-plc-after-todays-mixed-news/">Is There Value In Family Firms Daily Mail and General Trust plc, Fuller, Smith &amp; Turner plc And Nichols plc After Today&#8217;s Mixed News?</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com">The Twelfth Magpie</a>.</p>
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                                                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a great deal of fondness for the small number of long-established British family firms listed on the FTSE. Not for sentimental reasons, but because they have qualities that make them highly attractive for private investors with a long-term buy-and-hold philosophy.</p>
<p>These businesses often have much stronger balance sheets than the average company, and are conservatively stewarded for subsequent generations. Long-term business performance and shareholder returns suggest that pitching in your lot with these families can be highly profitable.</p>
<p>There was mixed news today from three such firms: <strong>Daily Mail &amp; General Trust</strong> (LSE: DMGT), <strong>Fuller, Smith &amp; Turner</strong> (<a class="tickerized-link" href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com/tickers/lse-fsta/">LSE: FSTA</a>) and <strong>Nichols</strong> (<a class="tickerized-link" href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com/tickers/lse-nicl/">LSE: NICL</a>). Could now be a good time to buy a slice of these businesses?</p>
<h3>Daily Mail</h3>
<p>Daily Mail &amp; General Trust (DMGT) evolved from the eponymous newspaper, launched in 1896. DMGT&#8217;s strategy is to grow its business-to-business assets, and offset the slow structural decline of print news circulation with digital advertising revenue from its fast-growing <em>MailOnline</em> website, and other online assets, including <em>Wowcher</em> and <em>Elite Daily</em>.</p>
<p>DMGT has been managing this successfully, but news in today&#8217;s Q3 trading update came as something of a shock. Underlying revenue across the group&#8217;s media businesses declined by 5% in the quarter; notably <em>MailOnline</em>&#8216;s £1m (8%) growth lagged well behind a £7m (15%) decline in print advertising for the <em>Daily Mail</em> and <em>Mail On Sunday</em>.</p>
<p>DMGT&#8217;s explanation of a general <em>&#8220;marked deterioration in the UK print advertising market in the quarter&#8221;</em> is credible, because local newspaper group <strong>Johnston Press</strong> said the same thing last week, noting in particular that advertisers chose to reduce or delay their spend around the time of the General Election.</p>
<p>So, the quarter looks to be something of an anomaly, albeit of sufficient impact for DMGT to warn that <em>&#8220;the outlook for the Group&#8217;s Full Year results is now towards the lower end of market expectations&#8221;</em> &#8212; and for the shares to fall over 10% in early trading. On the assumption that Q3 was something in the nature of a blip, DMGT looks reasonable value on a forward price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 15.5 based on earnings at the lower end of previous market expectations.</p>
<h3>Fullers</h3>
<p>Brewer and pubs group Fuller, Smith &amp; Turner &#8212; founded in 1845 and famous for its <em>London Pride</em> ale &#8212; issued a trading update ahead of its AGM today, saying that <em>&#8220;the business has made a strong start to the new financial year&#8221;</em>.</p>
<p>The update was short and selective on numbers, but those it gave put some flesh on the <em>&#8220;strong start&#8221;</em>: like-for-like sales in managed pubs and hotels were up 5.7%, like-for-like profits in the tenanted division grew 4% and brewery volumes were level.</p>
<p>The shares are up 3%, as I&#8217;m writing. And, after a strong performance since the start of the year (+24%), Fullers trades on an elevated P/E of 22. I would be looking for a bit of a pull-back in the shares, although the P/E is always on the high side. That&#8217;s the price you pay for a premium business, with strong freehold property backing and a remarkable record of having increased its dividend every year without fail since 1974.</p>
<h3>Nichols</h3>
<p>Nichols was established on the back of soft drink <em>Vimto</em>, created in 1908 and now sold in more than 65 countries. The company&#8217;s brand portfolio also includes <em>Levi Roots</em>, <em>Sunkist</em> and <em>Panda</em> which are sold in the UK. In today&#8217;s half-year results, Nichols also announced the acquisition of premium juice drinks brand <em>Feel Good</em>.</p>
<p>The results showed sales at the same level as last year. However pre-tax profit was up 9% and earnings per share up 11%, as the company&#8217;s current value-over-volume strategy lifted the operating profit margin from 18% to 20%.</p>
<p>Nichols&#8217; shares are up 2%, as I&#8217;m writing, and up 44% since the start of the year. If the half-year earnings growth carries through to the full year &#8212; the company said today that it is <em>&#8220;well positioned to continue its growth trend&#8221;</em> &#8212; we&#8217;d be looking at the same premium P/E of 22 as for Fullers. Again, I&#8217;d be hoping for a dip in Nichols&#8217; shares, but again they still wouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;cheap&#8221;, partly because the company has a tremendously strong balance sheet, which includes £32m of cash and no debt.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com/2015/07/23/is-there-value-in-family-firms-daily-mail-and-general-trust-plc-fuller-smith-turner-plc-and-nichols-plc-after-todays-mixed-news/">Is There Value In Family Firms Daily Mail and General Trust plc, Fuller, Smith &amp; Turner plc And Nichols plc After Today&#8217;s Mixed News?</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com">The Twelfth Magpie</a>.</p>
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                                <title>Don&#8217;t Make These Mistakes With Rio Tinto plc, BHP Billiton plc And Fuller, Smith &#038; Turner plc</title>
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                                <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator><![CDATA[G A Chester]]></dc:creator>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Watch out for these pitfalls with Rio Tinto plc (LON:RIO), BHP Billiton plc (LON:BLT), and Fuller, Smith &#38; Turner plc (LON:FSTA).</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com/2015/03/25/dont-make-these-mistakes-with-rio-tinto-plc-bhp-billiton-plc-and-fuller-smith-turner-plc/">Don&#8217;t Make These Mistakes With Rio Tinto plc, BHP Billiton plc And Fuller, Smith &amp; Turner plc</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com">The Twelfth Magpie</a>.</p>
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                                                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unwary investors can be caught out by hidden banana skins when valuing miners <strong>Rio Tinto</strong> (<a class="tickerized-link" href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com/tickers/lse-rio/">LSE: RIO</a>) and <strong>BHP Billiton</strong> (LSE: BLT), and brewer and pubs group <strong>Fuller, Smith &amp; Turner</strong> (<a class="tickerized-link" href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com/tickers/lse-fsta/">LSE: FSTA</a>). Here&#8217;s what you need to watch out for with these stocks &#8212; and a few others.</p>
<p>For companies rich in hard assets &#8212; such as miners &#8212; investors often look at the valuation ratio of price-to-net assets, also referred to as price-to-book (P/B). The table below shows the calculations we might do for <strong>FTSE 100</strong> miners Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton.</p>
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<td><strong>Price (P)</strong></td>
<td><strong>Book value (B)</strong></td>
<td><strong>P/B</strong></td>
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<td>Rio Tinto</td>
<td>1.41bn shares x 2,927p share price = £41.3bn</td>
<td>US$54.6bn (£35.1bn)</td>
<td>£41.3bn/£35.1bn = 1.2</td>
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<td>BHP Billiton</td>
<td>2.11bn shares x 1,586p share price = £33.5bn</td>
<td>US$86.2bn (£55.4bn)</td>
<td>£33.5bn/£55.4bn = 0.6</td>
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<p>You&#8217;ll also find Rio on a P/B of 1.2 and Billiton on 0.6 among some of the financial websites that do the work for you. The ratings, particularly BHP Billiton&#8217;s, make these two world-class giants appear surprisingly cheap, compared with the mining sector average P/B of around 1.5.</p>
<p>The reason is, if we&#8217;ve done the calculation as in the table above, we&#8217;ve inadvertently stepped on a banana skin.</p>
<p>Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton happen to be dual-listed companies (DLCs). A DLC functions as a single operating business, but is actually two corporations with separate legal identities, stock exchange listings and registers of shareholders.</p>
<p>The book values in the table above are for the single operating business (as presented in the companies&#8217; accounts), but the number of shares relate only to the London-listed side of the companies: namely, Rio Tinto plc and BHP Billiton plc. We also need to include the shares of Rio Tinto Ltd and BHP Billiton Ltd, which are listed on the Australian stock exchange.</p>
<p>Rio has 0.44bn Australian shares to add to the 1.41bn UK shares, which pushes up the &#8220;P&#8221; number in the table above from £41.3bn to £54.1bn, and the P/B from 1.2 to 1.5. In the case of Billiton, 3.22bn Australian shares need to be added to the 2.11bn UK shares, which pushes up the &#8220;P&#8221; number from £33.5bn to £84.5bn, and the P/B from 0.6 to 1.5.</p>
<p>The reality, then, is that neither company is cheap relative to the mining sector average, and that Billiton isn&#8217;t cheaper than Rio.</p>
<p>There are a number of other DLCs to look out for, including cruise operator <strong>Carnival</strong>, which has shares listed in London (Carnival plc) and New York (Carnival Corp). I should also note, though, that many companies&#8217; shares are traded on foreign exchanges, and that this doesn&#8217;t in itself make the company a DLC.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite finished yet! There are some companies listed on the stock market that have other shares that aren&#8217;t even listed at all. But we still need to include the value of these unlisted shares in our P/B calculations.</p>
<p>Fuller, Smith &amp; Turner, for example, has 32.36m shares on the London stock exchange, currently priced at 1,030p. This would give us a &#8220;P&#8221; for our P/B calculation of £333.3m, with the &#8220;B&#8221; being last reported net assets of £277.7m: so, a P/B of 1.2 &#8212; which looks very attractive relative to a peer such as Greene King on a P/B of 1.8.</p>
<p>However, Fullers has two classes of unlisted shares, which bring the total number of shares to 55.66m, making the &#8220;P&#8221; £573.3m and the true P/B a rather less attractive 2.1.</p>
<p>Again, Fullers isn&#8217;t the only company on the stock market to have unlisted shares. Another example is <strong>Haynes</strong>, publisher of the eponymous car repair manuals.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com/2015/03/25/dont-make-these-mistakes-with-rio-tinto-plc-bhp-billiton-plc-and-fuller-smith-turner-plc/">Don&#8217;t Make These Mistakes With Rio Tinto plc, BHP Billiton plc And Fuller, Smith &amp; Turner plc</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.twelfthmagpie.com">The Twelfth Magpie</a>.</p>
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